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The ‘Holy See’ National Anthem, i.e., Pontifical Anthem, Charles Gounod’s ‘Marche Pontificale’.

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Click to listen to the anthem, as a YouTube video, played by the Prague Castle Guard & Police Orchestra.


It was played at the White House, on Wednesday morning, Sept. 23, 2015, when Pope Francis was being welcomed by President Obama. It is an anthem that is not familiar to many in that it does not get played at sporting events, e.g. the Olympics.

That it was referred to by U.S. media as the Holy See national anthem, though not incorrect per se, was misleading. The ‘Holy See’ is not a nation so it doesn’t have a national anthem. The anthem is a Pontifical Anthem for the pope. It was composed in 1869 by French composer Charles-François Gounod [1818 – 1893] best known for his rendition of the ‘Ava Maria’.

Wikipedia has a good entry for the Pontifical Anthem. Check it out.


Holy See Flag To Fly At United Nations (UN), New York, For The First Time, Friday, For Pope Francis Visit.

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>> Pope Francis’ U.S. Visit — THE book.
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>> Pope’s arrival at Andrews.

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Click here to access ‘Vatican Information Service’ (VIS) original.


This excerpt from my ‘Pope Visit to US‘ book sets the stage …
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Not having the Holy See flag flying in UN Plaza had to do with the Holy See NOT being a Member State. [See above] But, they are now making an exception. The other Permanent Observer to the UN, at present, is Palestine. Wonder whether they will request that their flag is flown too — and the UN, most likely, will have to accede to that request to be fair.

In case you are wondering why it is the ‘Holy See’ as opposed to the ‘Vatican City State’ that is represented at the UN it has ALL to do with HISTORY and politics.

The ‘Holy See’ — a ‘see’ being the office & diocese of a bishop — refers to the Bishopric of Rome; the pope’s most important title being that of the ‘Bishop of Rome‘. The Holy See thus predates the Vatican — as the site of a Christian church (now St. Peter’s) let alone a sovereign state — by a long chalk. The Vatican is where a Roman ‘circus’, an open-air venue for public events, used to be, even up to the time of Emperor (‘as Rome burned’) Nero [54 to 68 BCE]. The first proper Christian church to be built there, the Old St. Peter’s, did not happen till the 4th century. Popes only started residing at the Vatican, on a permanent basis, since the 14th century. It only became a sovereign state in 1929. So that is the FIRST reason why it is the Holy See that conducts diplomatic relations as opposed to the ‘Vatican’. The Holy See was actively involved in International diplomacy prior to the Vatican coming to be.

The next reason is that the Holy See, said to be founded (somewhat uniquely) by two Apostles, is considered to be the seat of power for the entire Catholic Church. So by saying ‘Holy See’ the Vatican is showing that it is representing all the Catholics worldwide as opposed to just a City State. Is that clear? Yes, it can be confusing. But hope this helps.


Pope Francis’ Newly Appointed PRO-Secretary Of State, Pietro Parolin, Sidelined With Liver Complications! Also NO Camerlengo.

Anura Guruge, June 8, 2013.

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Click to read Vatican 'VIS' original from today.

Click to read Vatican ‘VIS’ original from today.


Archbishop Pietro Parolin only became pro, i.e., acting, Secretary of State for the Holy See on October 15, 2013. That was just 10 days ago.

It now appears that he has been in hospital, undergoing surgery, much of that time!

Hepatobiliary‘, stated in the VIS communique above, like ‘hepatitis’, has to do with the liver. So it would appear that he has liver problems. Hhhmmm. Catholics prelates do have a well deserved reputation for being rather partial to expensive liquor (possibly as a reaction for having to maintain a public visage of celibacy).

This is rather awkward for the pope. He has a chunk of his lung missing and now his #2 has major liver problems. Oh, dear. I guess the Vatican vetting process is even worse that that used by John McCain.

Also notice that the VIS communique uses a totally manufactured, new term: ‘Archbishop Secretary of State‘. That is BECAUSE he is not a cardinal — as I pointed out on day one. Nothing wrong. Just something to be aware of.

It also occurred to me that the pope has not appointed a new Camerlengo.

The current Camerlengo, is my favorite, Lord Tarcisio Bertone — who until October 15, 2013 was also the commanding Secretary of State (and I think he did a very good job). On December 2, 2013, Lord Bertone will be 79. He can continue to be Camerlengo till be is 80. So he has another 14 months grace. But, an over-80 Camerlengo is about as useful as an illiterate man in a spelling bee. He can’t enter the conclave — and much of duties are within the conclave! So, keep an eye on that.

It is possible that the Pope might have to replace Parolin. IF so, will be still make cardinal?

Fascinating stuff. Stay tuned.

 

Until Created Cardinal, Archbishop Pietro Parolin, Will Be PRO-Secretary Of State, Holy See, Not Secretary Of State.

Anura Guruge, June 8, 2013.

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Click to access original Vatican announcement.

Click to access original Vatican announcement.


In their excitement to break the news the media is losing sight of two key points.

First: Appointment is as of October 15, 2013; not immediate.

Second: Only a CARDINAL can be Secretary of State, Holy See. Pietro Parolin is not a cardinal as yet — though now a cardinalate is guaranteed. ‘Pro-‘, in Latin, means ‘acting’. So until he becomes a cardinal his official title is Pro-. This is true for the heads of nearly all of the important curial dicasteries. You have to be a cardinal in order to officially head them. If not, you can still hold the office, but not the title!

That it is ‘Pro-‘ is not a problem. Quite a few Secretaries of State started off as Pro-, including the current Dean of the College, the holder of three Roman titles (churches), Angelo Sodano.

What is funny is that just yesterday I started thinking about cardinalabili and the next consistory now that my work on comets was coming to an end. November has traditionally been popular for consistories. A November consistory would work. But, then again Pope Francis, not that interested in tradition, might take my recommendation and just have a micro-consistory and just create Parolin.

I, a confirmed pedant, especially when it comes to papal history, just wanted to make sure that we all had the facts right.

I am, of course, sorry to see the departure of ‘my man’, My Lord, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who in my opinion (and I do follow curial politics better than most) was an outstanding Secretary of State. Thank YOU, Lord Bertone for all of your wonderful work, non-stop inspiration and for being a good and decent human being.



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