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Thoughts On The “Next Conclave” By U.K. Catholic Canon Anthony Churchill, STL — Latest Consistory, November 2020.

by Canon Anthony Churchill, STL.


November 6, 2020

Implication of forthcoming consistory on conclave.

The decision of the Pope to create 13 new Cardinals will add to the unpredictability of the next Conclave. Nine of these will be electors while 4 are in effect ‘honorary’ Cardinals, being over the age of 80 (i.e., non-electors).

It seems unlikely that the Consistory set for November 28th can take place in the normal way. The COVID 19 pandemic and the restrictions on public events and on travel must make it inappropriate to ask elderly gentlemen to travel from all over the world at this time. Neither can it be wise to encourage the normal crowds of supporters to do the same.

I would hope that that the Pope will hold a brief ceremony in Rome with  the Curial Cardinals in order to officially “create” the new Cardinals, and postpone the ceremonies until a later date.

Pope John Paul II started the custom of inviting the entire College of Cardinals to come to Rome for these consistories. It was the custom to hold a day-long meeting of the College to which the new men were invited. These meetings gave the Cardinals a chance to meet each other and to some extent at least to get to know each other. This practice continued under Pope Benedict XVI, but has been stopped by the present Pope. It is not clear why Pope Francis should have done this, but in my view,, it does not help the new Cardinals to integrate and become more aware of the wider Church.

To my mind it can only be a disadvantage if the Cardinals arrive for the eventual Conclave not knowing each other. Francis has chosen men from all over the world, many from remote parts. They may well be outstanding pastors and men of wide pastoral experience, but they will often be strangers to Rome, and unfamiliar with its ways and the Italian language.

On the one hand this very diverse College could allow for an original and perhaps surprising result. It might lead to a Pope from “the peripheries” with a very different perspective on the future of the Church. Such a Pope might reflect more closely the concerns of Catholics in a very diverse world.

On the other hand , it seems to me that a large number of recently created Cardinals who are strangers to the Vatican and to each other could be at risk of being manipulated by those who are sometimes known  as the “grand electors”. Groups who are well known to each other and are well versed in Vatican affairs could exercise undue influence in these circumstances.

It remains to be seen how this will all “play out”, but it certainly does not make it any easier to predict what might happen at the Conclave when it comes.


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Thoughts On The “Next Conclave” By U.K. Catholic Canon Anthony Churchill, STL.

by Canon Anthony Churchill, STL.


August 25th 2020

Conclave

I can see the obvious similarities between “Trump versus Biden” and “Francis versus whoever” . I think there is a lot truth in that, but the conclave will be rather more complex than that. As in U.S. politics, so in the Church, there is a deep division between those who are enthusiastic supporters of Francis and those who, for a variety of reasons, oppose him.

In my view that only describes part of the story. Many Catholics do not so easily fit into one camp or the other. Right wing American Catholics are inclined to see their Republican Party  ideals and values as part and parcel of their Catholic Faith.

They look at the Gospel through Republican filters,

For them Francis seems to be a dangerous socialist and radical after the style of Bernie Sanders. Whereas in Europe many take a much more nuanced view.

Certainly there are many Catholics in Europe and Australia who more or less share the American “Right’s” analysis and hostility, but as I see it, these people tend to communicate only with those of a like mind.  They do not represent as many ordinary Catholics as they might think.

Francis’ concern for the poor is shared by very large numbers of Catholics who cannot so easily be classified as liberals or conservatives. Quite a number of Cardinals share that concern. It will become apparent that a good number of Cardinals from the “Global South” have very different priorities, which will govern their attitudes going into the Conclave.

Edward Pentin’s book is a very useful analysis of the views of his 19 candidates, but the analysis clearly reflects his own views.  It can be very helpful toto read what he has discovered of their views on a range of subjects. It does not follow that what he sees as a negative will be seen in that light by the Cardinals who will certainly study it with interest.

I think that it might take a little time for a consensus to emerge as it has to for a Cardinal to achieve the necessary two thirds of the votes, but I suspect that unlike the American November election the Conclave will be altogether more subtle.

If I can risk a prediction, I cannot see the “Anti-Francis” Cardinals having enough support to elect Cardinal Sarah, or even Raymond Burke ( utterly impossible surely).

Equally I cannot see the strongly “Pro Francis” crowd being sufficiently numerous to elect Cardinal Tagle.

The group of Cardinals who don’t really belong in either camp will be crucial in obtaining the requisite two thirds.  I suspect we need to know much more about their concerns.

I certainly see parallels with Trump versus Biden, but that will only be part of the story.

These are my initial thoughts bearing in mind that, as always, so much will depend on when the Conclave happens. We could yet see one or two more consistories with new candidates, and many of the ones mentioned in Pentin’s book will soon reach 80 years old. I cannot see the election of an octogenarian Pope.


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My Considered Take On The Next Conclave.

by Anura Guruge



It will be uncanny — for those that lived through the U.S. 2020 presidential election.

It will be deja vu, but this time in the context of the Church.

Yes, since 1870 (or thereabouts) most conclaves pivoted on ‘right’ (traditionalist/conservative) vs ‘left’ (‘modernist’/liberal) considerations.

But, as with the U.S. (& Trump), Pope Francis has brought this to ‘a head’.

There is polarization like never before — both in the U.S. & the Church.

The HUGE, insurmountable difference between the U.S. election & the conclave, however, being that unlike U.S. citizens, Catholics have NO SAY. Not even Catholic priests, bishops or archbishops. Just (at most) 120 cardinal electors hand-picked by Popes Francis, Benedict XVI & John Paul II. Papal elections are NOT democratic. Papal elections hark back to the fiefdoms of the 13th century.

But, the battle will be real & bitter.

It will hark back to Vatican II — ’80’-years ago. It will be a ding-donger.

Stay tuned. I will keep you posted.


 


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“Popes & Papacy” On Facebook — For All Things Papal.

by Anura Guruge


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My ‘Popes-and-Papacy’ Website, which I started around 2008, was EXTREMELY successful until I quiesced it in May 2013 — once the current pope was elected. Though it covered most aspects of the papacy, my overriding interest, commensurate with my work on ‘The Next Pope’ books, was the ‘Next Pope’ and the ‘next conclave’. Well, that happened in March 2013. I then kind of moved onto some of my other interests — e.g., the brain & meditation. Late last year I, very reluctantly, closed down ‘Popes-and-Papacy’ because it was too time consuming to maintain.

Well, it appears that the lead up to the NEXT POPE POST POPE FRANCIS is upon us, and I despite, despite other distractions just cannot resist getting into the fray. So, as some of you may have noticed I am again doing papal posts on a regular basis.

There is no way I have the time, energy or patience to start a new Website.

Hence, ALL my pope posts will be on this BLOG. That is a given.

But, I started the ‘Popes & Papacy’ Facebook page as a tracking site for the pope posts on this blog — given that there are many people who are only capable of reading stuff on FB.

OK? You got the story.


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